They literally think that a 6'3" 125lb extreme framecel with 6.25 inch wrists, can look "robust" and "massive", just through eating 4000 calories a day and following "starting strength bruh". They deny that skeleton thickness/width is the main determining factor of how your body looks. They also deny that steroids are what most skinnycels need, and instead claim that "squatz and oatz brah" is all that is needed. Truly ridiculous. They also go on about how "steroids are for cheaters" when in reality they are probably the most fair part of bodybuilding, as they put framecels on the same level as mesomorphs.