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So there are tons of studies around that say that men with higher testosterone are rated more masculine and beautiful by women. Could it really be that taking additional T in the right years of development could lead to a more aesthetic face? Does testosterone cause facial attractiveness or is higher testosterone just the result of a better life, for example because of more female attention and better achievements in sports and dominating? Or is it just a by-product of good health and genes (which also results in facial attractiveness)? Is it the cause or the result? What do you think?

It seems plausible, though, that testosterone gives a man facial attractiveness, because testosterone builds muscle.
 
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testosterone doesnt make a man good-looking but good-looking ppl have superior genetics and high testosterone comes with it (along with many other things)
 

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What makes a face more masculine then? What makes the difference between a male and female face?
 

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So if somebody has masculine facial bones he or she just has the genes of masculinity? Why don't we see females with big brow bones then?
 
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it works both ways. masculine behaviors will induce higher T and thus more masculine appearance. 
higher T, whether genetic or exogenous, will induce more masculine behavior and appearance.​
 
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BIGGERNIGGER said:
TheNextLachowski said:
it works both ways. masculine behaviors will induce higher T and thus more masculine appearance. 
higher T, whether genetic or exogenous, will induce more masculine behavior and appearance.​
What?
testosterone level is the cause and result of masculine behavior/appearance.
 

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The skulls of men and women are different. Why?
 
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lltvyr said:
The skulls of men and women are different. Why?
jesus christ have you ever heard of this

its called fucking DNA.
why are humans not monkeys? testosterone???
 

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The Y chromosome doesn't have genes for bone development. It gives you testicles via SRY gene which give you testosterone.
 
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lltvyr said:
The Y chromosome doesn't have genes for bone development. It gives you testicles via SRY gene which give you testosterone.
its all in the genes man. they determine how your face will look like, how much hgh you gonna produce, how much testosterone, how much testosterone will be converted to dht or estrogene, how much insulin you produce etc etc...

if you look aat a closer scale, of course testosterone and dht and hgh and insulin and cortisol and nutrition and various other things influence how your face will grow. but the ability to reach that grow is manifested in your genetics. a subhuman will never produce 1200ng/dl of testosterone naturally...something a slayer with good genetics will easily produce. why? because one of them has the genetic value of a bag of potatoes...
and that is just one example. if someone has shitty genetics, he will produce low t low dht low insulin low hgh high estrogen high cortisol etc etc...its all connected and will influence each other.
there is not _ONE_ factor which makes a face manly andattractive...
 

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40% (7 nmol/l) of the variance (10--28 nmol/ll) in testosterone production is environmental. And diseases, depression, for example, lower testosterone. And it's possible to supplement with androgens. The main question is: can these factors actually change a man's face or not? Will a depressed slayer turn into an incel?
 
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lltvyr said:
40% (7 nmol/l) of the variance (10--28 nmol/ll) in testosterone production is environmental. And diseases, depression, for example, lower testosterone. And it's possible to supplement with androgens. The main question is: can these factors actually change a man's face or not? Will a depressed slayer turn into an incel?
cause and effect.
if man is depressed, does it lower his test or is he depressed because he is a low T high E subhuman who doesnt get laid because of his shitty genetics?
 

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pringles said:
lltvyr said:
Lantern-jawed Chads are the most relaxed people of all.
Stress = begins with unbalanced hormones.

Unbalanced hormones decreases your sexual desirability - leads to self doubt - leads to stress- leads to apathy - leads to depression
Is that why men had much higher T and more robust frames and face when they lived as hunter gatherers chewing hard food and sleeping light (good sleep = less cortisol) because you never knew when someone was going to smash your skull in and take your woman
 

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Joncoping said:
pringles said:
lltvyr said:
Lantern-jawed Chads are the most relaxed people of all.
Stress = begins with unbalanced hormones.

Unbalanced hormones decreases your sexual desirability - leads to self doubt - leads to stress- leads to apathy - leads to depression
Is that why men had much higher T and more robust frames and face when they lived as hunter gatherers chewing hard food and sleeping light (good sleep = less cortisol) because you never knew when someone was going to smash your skull in and take your woman
Being robust doesn't always mean you have higher t. East Asians are some of the most robust people and more robust than their neighbors of the Middle East yet have lower t than Arabs. People from Baltic nations are very robust yet it is the Latins who have the highest t in Europe.
 
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