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[Surgery] Am I understanding CCW rotation right?

Weaselface

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Please check out these two bimax simulations:


Both gifs have the same anterior advancement — measured by the length of the resulting posterior gap —  but in one morph the maxilla is rotated counterclockwise with a corresponding impaction for a proper bite. There's obviously nothing wrong with the jaw in the before-images, but they're just morphs I made to get my bearings.

From the reading I've done there seems to be some aesthetic advantages — if you're a candidate — with a CCW rotation, e.g. improved mandible angle, less resulting mass at the base of the nose, a shorter lower third and a more curled, aesthetic philtrum (?).

Whenever I research my problems I keep bumping into posts by Kyra all over the web, which is understandable given that our issues are (were?) quite similar.

Am I understanding this right? Surgerycels please respond.
 

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can someone post a pic for low iq poster? srs i need visualisation, i need arrow signs and stuff
 
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heilsa said:
can someone post a pic for low iq poster? srs i need visualisation, i need arrow signs and stuff

watch through the document from above, there are pictures afair. if not, its not that hard to imagine wtf heilsa since when you a low iqcel? :shock:
ccw: anterior maxilla/mandible up, posterior maxilla/mandible down
 

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The German Dream said:
heilsa said:
can someone post a pic for low iq poster? srs i need visualisation, i need arrow signs and stuff

 
ccw: anterior maxilla/mandible up, posterior maxilla/mandible down

ah okay thank you
 

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heilsa said:
The German Dream said:
 
ccw: anterior maxilla/mandible up, posterior maxilla/mandible down

ah okay thank you



examples:

counterlockwise maxillomandibular advancement:





Figure 6 - A counterclockwise maxillomandibular advancement (CCW-MMA) is depicted with pre surgery on the left and post surgery on the right. Note in the post surgical photograph the balanced profile without nasal problems associated with S-MMA.

























clockwise maxillomandibular advancement:












































http://pocketdentistry.com/23-short-face-growth-patterns-maxillomandibular-deficiency/
 

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you can also google up dr sailor and reverse facelift. he performs on anybody
 

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Ascension said:
you can also google up dr sailor and reverse facelift. he performs on anybody

I'd sooner put a bullet through my face.
 

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:=) said:
Ascension said:
you can also google up dr sailor and reverse facelift. he performs on anybody

100k€ to look like a freak. I can do that on you for free.

holy shit stop coping. you cant afford it -> you dont like it

and i actually never said you should go for it.


beautiful:





holy shit what a freak:



another:








i agree that a lot of his patients look strange after surgery. they still look better than before and he was able to create something out of nothing.


ccw=life
 
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Ascension said:
you can also google up dr sailor and reverse facelift. he performs on anybody

Lol this guy looks like those goblins from harry potter :mrgreen:



        
      
 

JustTheWayYouAre

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He creates an inhumanly-looking appearance. He is the master in creating scary looking individuals, no doubts. And he is also the master of photo retouching.




 

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good improvements. Sure, not perfect but in motion they'd look so much more normal
 

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Did this guy have other things done? Lipo? implants? How has his jawline improved so much? In the before he has none, and ater you can even see the jaw angle/ramus near his ear.
I think I need this surgery...
 

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:=) said:


maybe good news for VME crew.


WTF???
so all they do is align the teeth and viola? no more long mid face?!?!?!?!

I have a retruded chin tbh(it was natty small and it being retruded is worse)
My upper teeth are arched too(slightly) can this surgery be the problem solver?"?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!
 
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