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RIP: Cold Shower Theory

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After personally trying max cold showers for 5 days straight I find myself beginning to doubt the legitimacy of cold shower theory, just like I realised no-fap was mostly bullshit. 

I intend to complete the 30 day cold shower challenge if only as an exercise in self-discipline. After reading the following post, I think I have decided to revert to warm showers (incorporating a 2-minute cold session at the end) when the 30 days is complete.

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“Cold water causes your blood to move to your organs to keep them warm.”[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]No. Cold water acts as a cutaneous vasoconstrictor, causing the skin to get less blood flow. This doesn’t translate into blood “moving to your organs”. Blood follows the same vessels either way. The difference is really that your blood pressure will be higher after exposure to cold water, an effect which is generally considered unhealthy.[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“Cold shower proponents argue that stimulating the circulatory system in this way keeps them healthier and younger looking than their hot water-loving counterparts.”[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Nonsense. There is no such thing as “stimulating the circulatory system” just as there is no such thing as “boosting the immune system”. What you’re actually doing is stressing your body by lowering your core temperature, forcing the body to expend calories to maintain thermal homeostasis. By the way, if your core temperature drops below around 95 F, you’re hypothermic, and that’s a medical emergency. The first sign is usually uncontrollable shivering, followed by tachycardia — rapid heartbeat — and an immediate urge to urinate. Such conditions are also absolutely terrible for the liver, and doing it regularly might eventually trigger type 2 diabetes.[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“Research at the Department of Radiation Oncology at Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine indicates that short cold showers may stimulate the brain’s “blue spot”- the brain’s primary source of noradrenaline — a chemical that could help mitigate depression.”[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Nikolai Shevchuk is basically a charlatan. The study you cite was done by him, and it flies in the face of basic science. While the locus caeruleus is being studied in relation to such things as depression and panic disorder, there’s absolutely no physiologic reason to believe cold water on the skin has any particular effect upon it, or that it ever could.[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“Hot water dries out skin and hair. If you want to avoid an irritating itch and ashy elbows, turn down the temperature of your showers.”[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]This is an argument for warm showers as opposed to hot. Not an argument for cold showers at all.[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“Also, cold water can make your manly mane look shinier and your skin look healthier by closing up your cuticles and pores.”[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]This is merely cosmetic. To “look healthier” is culture-bound, and not necessarily the same thing as actually being healthier. There is no particular health benefit associated with “closing up your cuticles and pores”. Cuticles don’t open or close, and pores don’t open or close so much that it has any great effect on one’s dermatology either way. One can still get blackheads with “closed pores”, and one will still sweat the same amount. What other possible benefit could this produce?[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]It also seems that I need to remind the group that neither hair nor the outermost layer of skin are actually alive. Hair was never alive. It’s a proteinaceous waste product of the body, conceptually similar to feces, though thankfully not chemically similar. And, all humans are covered with a good bit of dead skin, which protects the more sensitive living skin underneath. The human epidermis is divided into five layers, the first two of which are dead (the strata cornerum & lucidum). The next layer, the stratum granulosum, is in the process of dying. This is perfectly normal.[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“According to a study done in 1993 by the Thrombosis Research Institute in England, individuals who took daily cold showers saw an increase in the number of virus fighting white blood cells compared to individuals who took hot showers. Researchers believe that the increased metabolic rate, which results from the body’s attempt to warm itself up, activates the immune system and releases more white blood cells in response.”[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Absolute nonsense. There is no such thing as “activating the immune system”. It is always on if you have a working one. Some people don’t. Even if the study you mention actually supports such a conclusion and was rigorously done (which I can’t determine because you don’t provide enough information to identify it), this is a mere correlation. To jump from a correlation to a particular causal relationship is fallacious without more substantial evidence.[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“The same study by the Thrombosis Research Institute cited above showed that cold water showers actually increase testosterone production in men.”[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Still being unable to identify the study, I can’t rebut in detail. Nevertheless, the mere fact that the same study sought to test both immune response and testosterone levels of men after different types of showers suggests to me that there’s some pathological science going on here, and a detailed examination of the methods would expose flaws in the experiment. I’d bet money on it.[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“Trying to become a dad? Cold showers are good for your little swimmers. Your testes aren’t meant to get too hot; that’s why they hang outside your body. Sperm counts decrease when the temperature of a man’s testes increases. Experiments done in the 1950s showed that hot baths were an effective contraceptive. Men who took a 30 minute hot bath every other day for 3 weeks were infertile for the next six months.”[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Okay, this is just stupid. You’re relying on the vague usage of the word “hot” to imply that the hot showers an average person takes could do this, which is flatly false. One would have to take a literally scalding hot shower — burning the skin — to have any chance of inducing invirility (funfact: the word “fertility” only applies to females, the male equivalent is “virility”). A standard hot shower at around 100 F is not going to reduce sperm count, particularly if you don’t spend several hours per day in such water. A shower at 130 F might, but then you’re going to be covered in first degree burns as well. Your hot water tank shouldn’t be set to exceed 120 F to begin with.[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Also, there’s a fallacy involved in the idea that, because a scalding hot shower causes invirility, therefore a cold shower causes excessive virility. It’s non sequitur. It doesn’t follow logically. It could also be the case, for all YOU know, that both extremes of heat and cold cause invirility. You didn’t bother checking, did you? Looking only for confirming evidence and remaining intentionally ignorant of disconfirming evidence is how things like homeopathy and chiropractic neck manipulation get invented.[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“While switching from a hot to cold shower may not have as dramatic an effect, if you’re trying to create some progeny, it surely won’t hurt.”[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Neither will not bathing at all, on that front. So what? Pointless aside masquerading as an argument. “Do it because it won’t hurt” isn’t very persuasive. For the most part, licking a dog’s ass won’t hurt you: they’re usually cleaner than human hands. Nevertheless, I’m not going to be doing that any time soon.[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]“Every time I end a shower with cold water, I leave feeling invigorated and energized. Your heart starts pumping, and the rush of blood through your body helps shake off the lethargy of the previous night’s sleep. For me, the spike in energy lasts several hours. It’s almost like drinking a can of Diet Mountain Dew, minus the aspartame. And while it hasn’t been studied, many people swear that cold showers are a surefire stress reducer. I’m a believer.”[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Perhaps that’s the basic problem here. You’re a “believer” rather than an “investigator”. This is apparently akin to a religious conviction for you, and so you’re more interested in a presentation which persuades by dint of rhetorical misdirection than by dint of real evidence.[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]As I already mentioned, your heart “starts pumping” due to borderline hypothermia, which induces tachycardia, which is absolutely NOT a good thing to repeatedly induce. Likewise, far from reducing stress, it causes it. Vasoconstriction -> hypertension -> stress. Regular bouts of hypertension also cause damage to internal organs, particularly the kidneys.[/font]

[font=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]So the only real incontestable point you've made for the entire article is that a cold shower produces, for you at least, a subjective feeling of vigor. Not exactly impressive or convincing.[/font]
 

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It is just an exercise in getting you out of your comfort zone and conditioning yourself with being uncomfortable.  There are probably several other things you could do in it's place if the cold showers are not working out for you.  Personally I think it takes a lot more courage and mental toughness to cold approach a 10/10 female than taking a cold shower.  maybe try giving a public speech instead.
 
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gottaplay said:
well if you havent been able to change your life for years, why do you create yourself extra suffering for a month? you look like shit, you dont have a friends nor life, you dont have a girlfriend and wont get one. then you voluntarily deprive yourself from the only good things in life you have left - food, masturbating, a nice warm shower/bath. for what?

let it sink in. being a mentally ill loser sadomasochist WONT CHANGE your life. it will only raise your cortisol levels.

Fucking lol, your attacks always make me laugh.
 

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gottaplay said:
well if you havent been able to change your life for years, why do you create yourself extra suffering for a month? you look like shit, you dont have a friends nor life, you dont have a girlfriend and wont get one. then you voluntarily deprive yourself from the only good things in life you have left - food, masturbating, a nice warm shower/bath. for what?

let it sink in. being a mentally ill loser sadomasochist WONT CHANGE your life. it will only raise your cortisol levels.

:tay:
 

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gottaplay said:
well if you havent been able to change your life for years, why do you create yourself extra suffering for a month? you look like shit, you dont have a friends nor life, you dont have a girlfriend and wont get one. then you voluntarily deprive yourself from the only good things in life you have left - food, masturbating, a nice warm shower/bath. for what?

let it sink in. being a mentally ill loser sadomasochist WONT CHANGE your life. it will only raise your cortisol levels.

I agree about the no fap. Read my old posts, and I even said it's bullshit at the top of this thread..

I like to try things myself though before I make an evaluation, which is what i'm doing here. I trialled cold showers because of the potential aesthetic improvements (skin, hair etc). I believe these have been somewhat exaggerated after further research and personal experience.
 

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Severe Retard said:
It's so funny because what you just did is exactly quitting and looking for excuses to not take a cold shower like the pussy you are

Why not just go out and do the things you are afraid of instead of beating around the bush with cold showers and more mental masturbation.  The reason most high inhibition people are scared to do shit is because they over think it.  This just seems like more mental masturbation and delay towards doing something your afraid of.
 

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gottaplay said:
never take advice from jews, first he convinces you to take cold showers, then tries to sell you a warm blanket



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:  funny but great point
 

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Severe Retard said:
It's so funny because what you just did is exactly quitting and looking for excuses to not take a cold shower like the pussy you are


this is the actual ted talk theres no claims of physical improvement... stop being a quitter loser aspie and looking for a way out of everything, what a loser

Calm down and read the thread fully boyo

  • I haven't quit. 
  • I will complete the 30 day challenge.
  • I started doing this on the premise it will provide worthy benefits.
  • I agree it can be a worthy exercise in self-discipline.
  • This thread concerns and addresses the legitimacy of the other alleged benefits surrounding cold shower theory.



gottaplay said:
never take advice from jews, first he convinces you to take cold showers, then tries to sell you a warm blanket



Fucking lol
 

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ThereIsNoGame said:
>Talking TEDX Talks seriously
>Severe Retard lives up to his name

True, content wasn't credible enough to be a real TED Talk
 
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implying "discipline" will help get you laid when you are physically repulsive to attractive women
 

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It's USELESS, there is ZERO POINT to this shit let me tell you... Who would do something unenjoyable for NO REASON AT ALL?
 
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Sounds like excuses. Cold water is fucking legit for looksmaxing. I sometimes don't even need to do anything else for my face than taking a cold shower. That's WITH working outside in this heat and covered in dirt for 10 hours daily.

If you're just going to quit after 5 days of showers, don't waste time trying anything else. You'll just end up quitting.
 
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Wow, what a bunch of faggots in here.  




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