no morning wood, no random errections, no sex drive, tired, insoimnia, irritable

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nar your good bro normal range bro must be depression bro trsut me im a endocronologist just go out meet a girl bro here take some viagra help you out man

testosterone is uinhealthy man can kill you bro make your organs grow man you dont need it anyway "haha" HGH? no way bro you know how expensive that is you are only young dont need to test for hgh levels bro sure your good  but i think you may have bdd so ill refer you to mental health team they will help you no problem ill discharge you now

:cage:

waited 2 years for that appointment
tesatosterone:12.6

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If you're on here you should be well past the point of taking the advice of normies seriously. 

Get surgeries, get on steroids, become a chad, 
If you fail

Cope and then suicide when you can't cope no more
 

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I got twice your levels and the same symptoms.

And turns out I have depression and they got me on SSRI's now.

But yea those are low af. What's your age?
 

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"Doctors" are a joke.

Literally just buy roids off eroids or the darknet if they're illegal where you are and inject yourself. Don't waste time with "professionals".
 
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I had T in the low 300's (ng/dl) at the age of 19 and was also told to fuck off by doctors, lol. No one will ever care, it's up to us to self-medicate and/or find out what causes it.

If you lift, better stop that shit right away. Eating a restrictive diet? Plz no. I remember a guy on a forum years ago taking his T level during a cut and again while bulking - they were more than doubled while bulking, lamo.
 

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lifting_will_ruin_yr_life__srs said:
I had T in the low 300's (ng/dl) at the age of 19 and was also told to fuck off by doctors, lol. No one will ever care, it's up to us to self-medicate and/or find out what causes it.

If you lift, better stop that shit right away. Eating a restrictive diet? Plz no. I remember a guy on a forum years ago taking his T level during a cut and again while bulking - they were more than doubled while bulking, lamo.
Have you managed to increase your T? If so, how?
 

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lifting_will_ruin_yr_life__srs said:
I had T in the low 300's (ng/dl) at the age of 19 and was also told to fuck off by doctors, lol. No one will ever care, it's up to us to self-medicate and/or find out what causes it.

If you lift, better stop that shit right away. Eating a restrictive diet? Plz no. I remember a guy on a forum years ago taking his T level during a cut and again while bulking - they were more than doubled while bulking, lamo.
amazing how easily women can get on the pill etc i also read an article of women getting trt for sex drive now lmfao

its also amazing how easily old men get put on trt when they dont really need it for their lifestyles

its just young men there is a stigma around it you literally cannot get trt as a young man it doesnt even matter ur levels. im pretty sure the drs perm fucked me as he started giving me trt at the start of the year and after 3 injkections he stopped cold turkey didnt give me any hcg nothing i just got a letter through the mail saying hes had to stop lmfao also he injected so badly i still have injection scar on my ass lmfao at even going to the dr

no i dont lift i just jog mainly for circulation and do some b/w exercises its strange my t levels vary quite a bit all in the good ol normie range tho so no problem depsite all symptons
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Reflex said:
Mine was 8.7 

did you get any treatment?:

tbf at the low range the symptons are exactly the same
 

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Defeat said:
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Reflex said:
Mine was 8.7 

did you get any treatment?:

tbf at the low range the symptons are exactly the same
No

they refused me treatment because I was 0.3 within the normal range lol
 

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Before I hopd on roids I spent fucking 6 months reading everything I could about this, I read on TRT reddit, steroid reddit, all the different kinds of TRT boards.

A very common pattern: 

1. Man experience shit libido, no wood, depression, lethargy etc
2. Man goes to doc
3. Doc tells man its depresion, gives him fucking SSRI
4. Doesnt help mans libido, ofcourse, and maybe gives him some artificual happines from time to time
5. Eight years later, man decided to check this test levels
6. Comes back 250ng/dl
7. Doc says its fine, "not every male need high T to function well!!!"
8. Man finds another doctor
9. Man finally after 10 years gets on TRT, levels to 1000ng/dl
10. Suddently man feels like he is 16 years old again, extreme energy, supreme libido, alive, driven, horny, want success
11. Man doesnt even need fucking SSRI no more

.. Man went 10-12 years on low T, basicly not living, cuz doctors said he was "fine".



RED PILL: If you have LESS than 800ng/dl total testosterone, with decent shbg, you are not FINE and you are NOT optimal at all.


Ive seen several young guys go check their hormones too, most of them come back fucking sub 500-600ng/dl, its totally redicilous, something is affecting us basicly making us low T cuckolds, its in the air and in our waters.
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Pinhead said:
Reflex said:
No

they refused me treatment because I was 0.3 within the normal range lol
:tyson:

you just cant make this shit up

i have prolactin so high I could legit have a tumor in my brain and my SHBG is so high that most 80yo men have lower yet because im still in range they wont treat me

just :tyson:
Yes we need an update on this, so whats happening? Any new tests? Hows your prolactin now?

U gon self medicate?
 

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I've been high normal range T with those symptoms before. It can depend on a lot of other factors too
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The lowest I've ever tested is 670ng/dl and I was coming off of 12 weeks dieting at sub-140 lbs
 
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RealRob said:
Before I hopd on roids I spent fucking 6 months reading everything I could about this, I read on TRT reddit, steroid reddit, all the different kinds of TRT boards.

A very common pattern: 

1. Man experience shit libido, no wood, depression, lethargy etc
2. Man goes to doc
3. Doc tells man its depresion, gives him fucking SSRI
4. Doesnt help mans libido, ofcourse, and maybe gives him some artificual happines from time to time
5. Eight years later, man decided to check this test levels
6. Comes back 250ng/dl
7. Doc says its fine, "not every male need high T to function well!!!"
8. Man finds another doctor
9. Man finally after 10 years gets on TRT, levels to 1000ng/dl
10. Suddently man feels like he is 16 years old again, extreme energy, supreme libido, alive, driven, horny, want success
11. Man doesnt even need fucking SSRI no more

.. Man went 10-12 years on low T, basicly not living, cuz doctors said he was "fine".



RED PILL: If you have LESS than 800ng/dl total testosterone, with decent shbg, you are not FINE and you are NOT optimal at all.


Ive seen several young guys go check their hormones too, most of them come back fucking sub 500-600ng/dl, its totally redicilous, something is affecting us basicly making us low T cuckolds, its in the air and in



Yes we need an update on this, so whats happening? Any new tests? Hows your prolactin now?

U gon self medicate?
Fucking feels from this post. I've been reading for 3 years. Same forums as you, same posts I bet. I've had my shit tested for the past 4-5 years once or twice a year (good insurance). Everytime levels are 450-550 and free test is middle range. Yet still have all the above symptoms. 

Low energy, mediocre libido, mediocre sleep, dgaf about most things in life. 

Have talked with endocrinologist and GP doctors. All of them scoff at the idea of TRT and basically try and say it's other shit. Endocrinologist actually said "well if you want to raise your test levels just work out more"

Has no idea how this works.....

I actually was able to get androgel prescribed by one dumb PA, but gels are shit and way expensive and some people can't even absorb the shit anyway. Thought about going self treated using UGL's but still too pussy to try it yet I guess. I'm not incel however so less motivation TBH.
 

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i am up there with shit test, not that shit tbh 499.7ng/dl but had it 650+ just a few years before when i was 18, life ends at 19 yo
 
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