Mainstream advice and the PUA's push the same Lie.

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Warning: long post...

It is my sincere belief that there is a major cultural half-truth which men are conditioned to believe. People like to point out exceptions and use them to prove a rule that doesn’t exist. Society does not want to acknowledge all the contrary evidence hidden in plain sight, and it’s time we DID.

Both mainstream dating advice AND those that sell books/videos/seminars promoting Game push the same Big Lie that “women are less visual than men.” It’s bullshit, and we need to stop believing it. Women are VERY visual and sexual beings! Women DO want good looking men, yet are HEAVILY pressured by society to repress the true nature of their sexuality. They trained by society to act the part. They are prodded into choosing long-term partners based on what society TELLS them they should want. Many of them feel forced to give up any hope of romantic love, and instead settle for a man they are NOT really sexually/romantically attracted to.

Adding insult to injury, women are pressured by society to pass off that same beta provider/sugardaddy relationship as a misleading example of “romantic love” – or they face shame and ridicule. One of many women’s greatest desires, above all else, is to have children, and that desire often outweighs their desire to love and be loved. If men knew how visual women truly are, many would not be so eager to marry or offer all the other things that go with long-term commitment — including children of her own! Women know this, and that is yet another reason why they dance around the issue when confronted with it. 

They are afraid to be open about the true nature of their sexuality, because if men collectively knew the truth, it would severely jeopardize many women’s chances of marriage and children. Women often lie about how much looks matter, but they are NOT doing it maliciously. In most cases, it is motivated either by fear, or unmet needs that override the desire for love.

The Big Lie is the unspoken fundamental reason why we have so many divorces, sexless marriages, unstable relationships and rampant infidelity on both sides. The Big Lie is also behind the misleading dating advice men are being fed. Corporate interests and our media also push this lie. How many houses, boats, diamonds, cars and other high cost items have been purchased by clueless men who believe romantic attraction can be “earned” by displaying his ability to provide – or “earned” in any way at all?

Women push the Big Lie out of fear, and Big Business/Hollywood plays along. A beautiful populace would be bad news for Big Business, and they know this. They had sexual attraction studied VERY closely in order to better market their products, and they maximize their profits by exaggerating the ideals on both sides. Adding insult to injury, other corporations push junk processed food that makes us fat and ruins our skin, hair and teeth.

The PUA and Seduction community teaches the exact same Big Lie, only dressed in a very different package. All the legitimate advice the PUA community teaches can be condensed into about 2 pages worth of material. The rest is fluff talk, much of it based on false premises, which themselves are entirely based on ONE Big Lie ("looks don't matter"). Game only really works well for guys who are above average in physical attractiveness. Dramatically improved sucess with women from using Game is NOT a realistic goal for men who are short, fat, balding, or significantly older than their target age range.

Losing fat, gaining muscle, a healthier diet, better grooming habits and a wardrobe overhaul would be FAR more effective – in LESS time, with LESS effort, and in many cases, spending LESS MONEY. Aha! See why those who sell these kinds of products fight so hard to maintain the Big Lie? Their ENTIRE BUSINESS is based on that belief! You want REAL game that can realistically work for fat, balding, ugly guys? Talk to a pimp who controls prostitutes, and don’t let your conscience get in the way of properly implementing his skills. It’s incredibly effective, but that is because it involves fear if not also force and violence. 

Men have been sold a half-truth. Women are less visual in choosing long-term mates, but only for PRACTICAL AND SOCIAL REASONS. When it comes to love, sexual attraction and romance, they are MORE visual than men are! Your looks DO matter! That is why the sex stops after the first few years of marriage. That is why you run into so many frigid women who are lousy in bed. That is why she makes you jump through hoops. That is why women have such long lists of “must have’s” and “must-do’s” when seeking long-term relationships or marriage. The sexual and romantic attraction is not really there, so you have to compensate, either materially or socially. The checklist is for average men, but for physically attractive men, that same girl’s list is MUCH more lenient!

If you are average looking, you’re not getting a fair deal. If your compensation for it is adequate, you are then sold a fake illusion of romance, blissfully unaware of either the game that is being played or the future dangers ahead. Years later, that yearning for real emotional love and sexual attraction may finally get the best of her, and she won’t be able to contain it anymore. In many cases she settled for you and was worried she might be making a mistake even as she walked down the isle toward the altar. It is vitally important that men understand she behaves these ways more out of fear and desperation than any malicious intent.

If you want to find love, romance, and a relationship that LASTS, do everything in your power to dramatically improve your physical appearance. As a man, your looks matter a lot more than you have been told to believe. You will also need to learn how to spot and SCREEN OUT the women who are not IMMEDIATELY physically attracted to you.
 

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Excellent post.  People need to understand PUA is a BUSINESS, and businesses will maximize profits by LYING if needed.
 

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the biggest flaw in the women are less visual than men is that those studies were done in the 50s

back then, that could be legit

smaller communities 
women weren't working
relied 100% on the man to bring in the $$$
sleeping with more than 2-3 guys made you a whore
would be outcasted from the community
people married @ 18-21 years old

its easy to see how back then a 10/10 could say "well he's ugly, but I don't want to be thought of as a whore and based on his confidence, outgoing behavior, and strong social skills he probably has the best chance of providing me with the best possible lifestyle for me and my future children. Better just shut the fuck up and marry him while he's still single" 

back then that could be legit, "confidence" was the only potential indicator of future status at such a young age 

but those days are gone, women don't need you wagecucks anymore
 

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Looks matter to everyone dipshit. No one really believes that, but rather they acknowledge that men are more visual. Women can get off of Status and money and not looks, men only value a woman for her looks.

You will never see a 10/10 male dating an ugly girl, but you'll see plenty of hot girls with average or even in some cases below average looking men
 

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Legit Theory said:
Looks matter to everyone dipshit.  No one really believes that, but rather they acknowledge that men are more visual.  Women can get off of Status and money and not looks, men only value a woman for her looks.

You will never see a 10/10 male dating an ugly girl, but you'll see plenty of hot girls with average or even in some cases below average looking men

is that bolded part true?
 
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Legit Theory said:
Looks matter to everyone dipshit.  No one really believes that, but rather they acknowledge that men are more visual.  Women can get off of Status and money and not looks, men only value a woman for her looks.

You will never see a 10/10 male dating an ugly girl, but you'll see plenty of hot girls with average or even in some cases below average looking men

You do realize you're advocating beta-providing, right? Do you seriously believe those hot girls are sexually attracted to the plain looking guy? Sorry, but those girls are simply settling. Lots of women value status, marriage, etc more than being with a man they're legitimately attracted to, and are willing to prostitute themselves for it. This is why guys mistakenly think women are less visual. Just because she's with him does NOT mean she likes fucking him. Women are NOT sexual vending machines where you flash wealth and the pussy gets wet. Status and money, without looks, only "attracts" whores.
 
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