Is this sucessful looksmaxing (@kyra - dr. zarrinbal before after)

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Double jaw Surgery (CCW-Maxillomandibular advancement i think) + zygomatic sandwich osteotomy

surgeon: dr zarrinbal - berlin
his profile definitely improved imo
 

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MistGeburt3000 said:
i see a big difference


would also think that he got a liposuction on neck done by looking at those pics
no i think this is just the weight loss because he cant chew any hard food after surgery
 

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his profile looks somehow better and his philtrum looks shorter. but it's stupid to conclude anything since it's silhouette pic which may be taken at unfavourable angle
 

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He needs more work, his orbital rims looks even more receded compared to his cheekbones right now
 
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sephon said:
I overlayed his old profile over the new


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From pure geometry changes he might look like this a bit

well...i expected more of a change tbh...fuark...is this worth paying 20k €?
hmm...maybe implants are the better route after all unless you have a real deformity and not only a aesthetical deformity
 

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The German Dream said:
sephon said:
I overlayed his old profile over the new


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From pure geometry changes he might look like this a bit

well...i expected more of a change tbh...fuark...is this worth paying 20k €?
hmm...maybe implants are the better route after all unless you have a real deformity and not only a aesthetical deformity
too be fair - there a some impressing before after pictures of a double jaw surgery out there. ofc you dont have the guarantee that your looks will increase drastically.
 
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heilsa said:
The German Dream said:
well...i expected more of a change tbh...fuark...is this worth paying 20k €?
hmm...maybe implants are the better route after all unless you have a real deformity and not only a aesthetical deformity
too be fair - there a some impressing before after pictures of a double jaw surgery out there. ofc you dont have the guarantee that your looks will increase drastically.
i know, but like i said before, those are cases of extreme deformity where insurance will pay for it 100% of the time.
but for purely cosmetic purpose im starting to doubt it somewhat. i mean sure, it will improve you...but for that cost you cant visit eppley twice and add 200g of silicone into your face
 

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The German Dream said:
davo said:
Z is cheaper than 20k, isn't he (bimax)?
the surgery itself is like 10k, but you also need to pay the hospital and the anesthetist and also the orthodontist for braces. it will be a bit cheaper than 20k yes, especially if it can be done withouth braces...but its roundabout the amount you should have savedhttps://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/anesthetist.html
lol less than 20.000 eur in germany

about 100.000 usd in the us


lol @ us health system
 

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That's an amazing improvement!

But going by the last picture, if they are from the same position, it really looks like his midface has gotten longer. Is this a normal thing to occur with a CCW?
 
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after seeing the real before/after i have to take back my statement.
this is very much worth 20k €...in fact i know about nothing being a better purchase with this money
 
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