if you are a framecel, you are fucked

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framecels have two choices:

1. remain low bodyfat, which is the only way your face will ever have a chance of looking good. the problem is that you will never look like a man. MMs get away with low bodyfat because they have massive frames. even chico has a huge frame so he can amog everyone without needing mass.

2. go on a dreamer bulk, which means being skinnyfat in order to have a semi-decent body. the problem is that the high bodyfat destroys face.

if you do not have robust BONES, you are fucked
 

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#3. Take steroids in huge amounts until you die from it b/c you have nothing to loose anyway.
 

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Anakind said:
#3. Take steroids in huge amounts until you die from it b/c you have nothing to loose anyway.

THIS! +5 Repped...

Or 

Take estrogen, anti-androgens and eventually have your testciles and penis removed in my case when the bones are fully fused from estrogen. 

Either ZyzzMaxx or TrannyMaxxx. 

As an incel you have nothing to lose..

You will gain attractiveness and also die earlier from this shit hole of a world.
 

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Anakind said:
#3. Take steroids in huge amounts until you die from it b/c you have nothing to loose anyway.

that's always a possibility but it comes with its own problems

the biggest problem is that you get used to the validation you get from being ascended and can never go back to being a framecel

you'll literally inject until you die
 

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dat feel said:
Anakind said:
#3. Take steroids in huge amounts until you die from it b/c you have nothing to loose anyway.

that's always a possibility but it comes with its own problems

the biggest problem is that you get used to the validation you get from being ascended and can never go back to being a framecel

you'll literally inject until you die

Post cycle recovery drugs will allow you to keep your gains.
 

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no such thing as keeping your gains. maybe a minimal amount but when your T drops your muscles go away
 

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Mona said:
dat feel said:
that's always a possibility but it comes with its own problems

the biggest problem is that you get used to the validation you get from being ascended and can never go back to being a framecel

you'll literally inject until you die

Post cycle recovery drugs will allow you to keep your gains.

Steroids are not just for "gains". They are especially for behavioral changes as framecels act naturally submissive b/c of their small physical presence. Steroids are a huge equalizer.
 

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Anakind said:
Mona said:
Post cycle recovery drugs will allow you to keep your gains.

Steroids are not just for "gains". They are especially for behavioral changes as framecels act naturally submissive b/c of their small physical presence. Steroids are a huge equalizer.

this is a very good point

no amount of steroids will make up for poor bone structure, but they are better than nothing

there needs to be a way to raise T levels naturally

also, taking aromatase inhibitors should increase T, as the body perceives a drop in E and start making more T
 

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dat feel said:
no such thing as keeping your gains. maybe a minimal amount but when your T drops your muscles go away

No they do not. Steroids permanently make your body grow a bunch of muscle cells that were not there before. 

As long as you do a proper post cycle recovery you will keep the vast majority of your gains.

Go to a steroid forum and ask any of the dudes there.

Here is an article on steroids having a permanent effect.

http://www.physoc.org/press-release/2013/steroids-muscle
 

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dat feel said:
also, taking aromatase inhibitors should increase T, as the body perceives a drop in E and start making more T

It's tricky though b/c you play with receptors and relationships between hormones that way. So it doesn't really come close to the real deal. I took some Arimidex as a standalone for two weeks last year. It gave me more morning boners but my sex drive itself went to zero.
 

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dat feel said:
framecels have two choices:

1. remain low bodyfat, which is the only way your face will ever have a chance of looking good. the problem is that you will never look like a man. MMs get away with low bodyfat because they have massive frames. even chico has a huge frame so he can amog everyone without needing mass.

2. go on a dreamer bulk, which means being skinnyfat in order to have a semi-decent body. the problem is that the high bodyfat destroys face.

if you do not have robust BONES, you are fucked


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If you want to do clomid as a natural T booster - you can...

But nothing will every come close to actually doing a 16 week cycle of Deca, Tren, Winistrol, Dianobol & Testosterone Cyclone with estrogen blockers and Fina for hairloss prevention and some good acne medication for face and body...

And than 100MG a day of clomid for 16 weeks should pretty much make you recovery very well and keep vast majority of your gains.

Roids is needed for bodybuilding - trust me... Otherwise you wasting your time in the gym. Might as well just do cardio and yoga so at least you are not some skinny fat faggot. It's better to be skinny rather than skinny fat.


dat feel said:
Anakind said:
Steroids are not just for "gains". They are especially for behavioral changes as framecels act naturally submissive b/c of their small physical presence. Steroids are a huge equalizer.

this is a very good point

no amount of steroids will make up for poor bone structure, but they are better than nothing

there needs to be a way to raise T levels naturally

also, taking aromatase inhibitors should increase T, as the body perceives a drop in E and start making more T

If your bones are not fully fused which they are not as long you never took estrogen - Than they will change your bones.

Deca was prescribed orginally to make bones strongers.
 

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Zoosus said:
dat feel said:
framecels have two choices:

1. remain low bodyfat, which is the only way your face will ever have a chance of looking good. the problem is that you will never look like a man. MMs get away with low bodyfat because they have massive frames. even chico has a huge frame so he can amog everyone without needing mass.

2. go on a dreamer bulk, which means being skinnyfat in order to have a semi-decent body. the problem is that the high bodyfat destroys face.

if you do not have robust BONES, you are fucked


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Those are all decent frames.

None are below average.

The proportions are incredibly decent.

Also Chico is 6'3.
 

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i lol @ people who think chico is a framecel

he is MASSIVE. wait until you see him next to other MMs, he mogs everyone who stands next to him
 

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dat feel said:
no such thing as keeping your gains. maybe a minimal amount but when your T drops your muscles go away

Aspie black and white thinking.

That guy @"RealRob" is the biggest guy in this forum and he had low T
 

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that simply means he had great development and hormone levels when it mattered
 
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