If fillers are cope how come Toni Mahfud ascended so hard?

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fillers are legit tbh just don't overdo it
Yeh bra

I am gonna get fillers first and see how they go.

You wanna be absolutely certain that jaw surgery will ascend you, and that you have a blackpilled surgeon, before getting it.

Until then I will see how fillers look.
 

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so you compare a picture where the guy is like 16 and compare it to a picture of him a few years later? a u unedited picture to a edited picture too?

i mean they are legit results but this example shouldnt be the benchmark

i just hope you dont fall for point 2 which would be human but aesthetical fatal

 
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but fillers are quick and cheap. so just try it out and you will see how it looks like. i would get it as soon as possible so you dont waste any more time
 

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but fillers are quick and cheap. so just try it out and you will see how it looks like. i would get it as soon as possible so you dont waste any more time
Yeh man

I've still got a few kg to lose.

Plus masks are compulsory where I live when you leave the house, so sort of a waste right now.

As soon as all that changes I will get fillers.
 

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They can look good but I just can’t get around to being a fan. They are temporary and I think cause soft tissue degradation, so once u start u have to keep getting it done every x timeframe , and each time I doubt it’s gonna be exactly the same result (human error w injecting , I don’t see how they would be injected into the same precise place each time but idk if it would really make a diff )

imo in terms of aesthetics get whatver u want done w osteotomies first and if u still need to alter ur face , look into custom silicone implants rather than fillers . However , I’m not a fan of the side wing or zso so I’d still opt for custom implants over those 2 procedures for added horizontal projection .

Goes without saying if u need functional work done (class 2 or 3 bite , actuallt fecessed or with some dentofacial deformity not just psl memeing , get osteotomies and see a good ortho and max fac )

Seeing a Max fac id alwsus a good płace to start
 

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They can look good but I just can’t get around to being a fan. They are temporary and I think cause soft tissue degradation, so once u start u have to keep getting it done every x timeframe , and each time I doubt it’s gonna be exactly the same result (human error w injecting , I don’t see how they would be injected into the same precise place each time but idk if it would really make a diff )

imo in terms of aesthetics get whatver u want done w osteotomies first and if u still need to alter ur face , look into custom silicone implants rather than fillers . However , I’m not a fan of the side wing or zso so I’d still opt for custom implants over those 2 procedures for added horizontal projection .

Goes without saying if u need functional work done (class 2 or 3 bite , actuallt fecessed or with some dentofacial deformity not just psl memeing , get osteotomies and see a good ortho and max fac )

Seeing a Max fac id alwsus a good płace to start
why not fan of side wing??
 

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why not fan of side wing??
From what I read and based on others exp, it can be a tad unpredictable ... can exacerbate present asymmetry for instance , and often for a more dramatic result u have to get 2 rounds of it with off time in between for the nerves . Seems to make more sense to get a custom silicone wraparound and be done w it if ur aiming for a wider lower third . Also not sure how bad of a prob potential step off points are .
 
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