german feminist admits her perfect society is when all women share a few chads and incels get pacified with sexrobots

[MeikeStoverock]

INTERVIEW TO DEUTSCHLANDFUNK WHICH IS THE BIGGEST GERMAN NATIONAL RADIO

Now Meike Stoverock makes suggestions as to what the coexistence of men and women could look like in a female choice civilization, a world order in which women tend to choose several alpha men in the course of their lives, but in which not every pot has a lid. She reckons with the institution of marriage, in which she sees an instrument for the oppression of women, and calls for a departure from the romantic notion that men and women can be happy in lifelong monogamy.

Men who can no longer find women in this new world order should be cared for in other ways - Stoverock thinks about sex robots and describes pornography as a possible “socially acceptable support” for men.

LOL - lookism.net got featured in german public tv

okay there seem to be a big difference between veronika kracher and meike stoverock (probably because the first studied social sciene and the later biology) meike stoverock just dropped incel knowledge in an interview with germany biggest newspaper...

lookism.net

remember when chad was still all trolling and meme?

its over boyos, the western civilisation will lead to your certain dom. or islam can help you now. wake up or get destroyed.

@Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

oh and since this few chads are enough to impregnate all the women there certainly not enough to finance and care for all that single mums and bastard children - so guess who will have to provide ressources for this group? without getting anything in return of course

 

[SeanO'God]

let me know when she has influence and isn't just barking to journalists like the poor abused dog she is

 

[MeikeStoverock]

let me know when she has influence and isn't just barking to journalists like the poor abused dog she is

the fact that national radio gives her space to spread her thoughts should be proof enough how fucked germany and the west in general is. just lol if you think that the society she is talking about isnt exactly where the west is heading too


only islam can save you now boyo

 

[SeanO'God]

the fact that national radio gives her space to spread her thoughts should be proof enough how fucked germany and the west in general is. just lol if you think that the society she is talking about isnt exactly where the west is heading too


only islam can save you now boyo

national radio gives airtime to whoever brings ratings (and revenue)

they don't give a fuck about what garbage they put out

germany is indeed fucked but this clown has exactly 0 influence - the second anyone who isn't an extreme psychotic leftist dog hears what she thinks is a good society she will get laughed out of the universe

 

[MeikeStoverock]

national radio gives airtime to whoever brings ratings (and revenue)

they don't give a fuck about what garbage they put out

germany is indeed fucked but this clown has exactly 0 influence - the second anyone who isn't an extreme psychotic leftist dog hears what she thinks is a good society she will get laughed out of the universe

you underestimate how cucked everyone here is

 

[ENORMOUS]

Islam cant save shit

 

[ENORMOUS]

Islam cant save shit

Everything else I agree with

 

[MeikeStoverock]

Islam cant save shit

are you the one that promotes that tranny shit? you will be the first one who will be stoned to death

 

[SeanO'God]

even tho my field is finance (slayer subject)

i might just write paper destroying her entire argument (and academic career)

 

[ENORMOUS]

are you the one that promotes that tranny shit? you will be the first one who will be stoned to death

keep coping about qt thicc blond pink buttholed trannys. they are indedd the future

 

[NuclearBrain]

anxiety and blood pressure status: increasing

 

[ethmlethiqcel]

let me know when she has influence and isn't just barking to journalists like the poor abused dog she is

What is the source of the quote in your signature?

 

[MeikeStoverock]

anxiety and blood pressure status: increasing

i only can recommend to read the whole thread that got linked in the op, extremely rageful

a few pieces:

she talked a bit about incels and her new book - here a short introduction:

How men tricked evolution, took power over women and why this is over now. In nature, males have to sing, dance, fight, build, while the females enjoy the show and then take off with the winner. The competition is amongst the males. The principle is called female choice. In humans, this principle was overturned after the discovery of agriculture. The result was a world made by men for men. But it won't stay that way. Meike Stoverock, who has a doctorate in biology, brushes male civilization against the grain biologically and feministically with verve and great knowledge. Only for a very short time - in terms of evolutionary biology - have women been able to help shape the world. And they are not ready to just accept the male world. That is why women are almost always responsible for progressive social changes around the world. The male world order is shaking and the men notice this. Everywhere male, sometimes violent resistance is forming. What now? With a captivating combination of biology, cultural history and a tone that is as clear as it is humorous, Meike Stoverock describes not only where mankind took the wrong turn over 10,000 years ago, but also what needs to change so that man and woman can be happy together today.

funny how she then proceeds by basically proving incel ideology: women are indeed only attracted to a rather small minority of men (biological reasons: women have to be more "picker" then men because they can get less offspring then men, invest more in offsprings etc) hence majority of men in history in old days never reproduced etc...however since these old days lead to high competion and eventually violence and murder amongst men (and to stop the cucking) men established monogamy via religion etc..and thats an unnatural state according to her which she cant wait to get removed by sexual liberation and higher economical status and income of women

she then goes on how this will natural raise the number of incels and gave a few suggestions how to deal with the situation

- introduction of pacifier for incel men: porn, sex roboter (hookers are very bad according to her and prostitution should be forbidden)
- it should be normalised to be incel, the social stigma should be removed. men should learn to accept their incel status. men also should be actively discouraged to go for women except they receive strong signals of interest
- the social state should be strengthen and the support single mums should be increased (so that they are not forced to be with sub8 men for beta providing)
- very interesting: cosmetic surgery was explictitely not recommend. basically everything that could improve the situation and the chances of reproducing for an incel was not recommend

again: all of that was on public german tv.

ON INCELS AND HOW SHE EXPECTS A DRASTIC INCREASING NUMBERS

ZEITmagazin ONLINE: You describe the aggression of sexually frustrated men. But wouldn't it increase if, as you suggest, we return to the principle of choosing women to get out of this toxic situation? Large parts would not be chosen by women, but would be left over and had to resort to pornography and sex workers, for example.

Stoverock: One pattern of Female Choice is that 80 percent of women choose 20 percent of men. The ones that make the most of civilization. But the others don't necessarily have to be pathetic or pathetic. If we go back to the animal world, then the male who cannot find a partner is the norm. The premium male, which has no problem reproducing, is the exception. With all this consideration of basic biological patterns, one has to keep in mind that none of us has chosen this. Neither women chose to have the children, nor did the men choose to have women choose their partners.

ZEITmagazin ONLINE: What would it look like in the present when we return to Female Choice?

Stoverock: I think the number of Incels would increase dramatically. The violence against women that has been observed up to now would then only be the beginning of a dramatic, socially endangering development. We must therefore take prompt action to catch these involuntarily abstaining men.

ZEITmagazin ONLINE: And how could that happen?

Stoverock: By changing the narrative. We have to find ways in which men can become respectable as men even without sexual success. Anyone who is successful with women is automatically a great pike, while the other is a poor sausage. Whether he's funny, a great musician, a fantastic storyteller: these qualities don't count. And that leads to the fact that even a boy who does not find a girlfriend in his school days grows up feeling like a failure. In principle, the core of this entire male culture for 10,000 years was getting a 1: 1 supply. Every man gets a woman.

ZEITmagazin ONLINE: But isn't initmacy also important, for both men and women? Isnt life more then satisfying basic needs [for suvival]?


Stoverock: Exactly. The need for intimacy and contact is gender-independent. But physical automatisms also play a role in sexuality. Because, on the one hand, men feel that involuntary abstinence is accompanied by an increase in frustration and aggressiveness. Sex breaks down testosterone, the hormone that can also lead to aggression. And I believe that at the beginning of the sedentary lifestyle, men felt that they had to get this potential for aggression under control in order to live permanently in a large community of men and women in one place. Otherwise they would be toxic to such a society. And that's why it was so important to provide men with basic sexual care.



ZEITmagazin ONLINE: If women would vote again, which men would they choose according to the female choice principle - tall, broad-shouldered, good teeth, in order to really go into the cliché?



Stoverock: Individual preferences can be different, but there are observable patterns that persist. The fact that men are on average six inches taller than women today shows that women have preferred tall men for likely hundreds of thousands of years. And there is research showing that when women are ovulating and their whole bodies are ready to reproduce, they want athletic daredevils. Outside of this evolutionary phase, however, they definitely choose the reliable type of provider that does not cause any trouble at home.

ZEITmagazin ONLINE: According to the female choice principle, far fewer men would become fathers, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the birth rates will decrease. You take Norway as an example, where the number of men who do not have children has increased from 12 to 23 percent in the last 30 years. At the same time, the number of "recycled" men who have women with several children has increased. Sounds difficult for those who can't find a partner.



Stoverock: I'm not saying that female choice makes living together easier. But it would be of great help if this whole socio-political discourse also opened up to biological facts. Sedentary civilization has lasted 10,000 years now, but we are faced with injustice on every nook and cranny. Neither have I yet found an answer to how one can really combine the positive from male civilization - art, science, medicine - with the positive from natural female sexuality. And the positive in the men's world was only possible through oppression and exploitation, that is the structural imbalance. Monogamous marriage only clears the man's mind - free from sexual competition. So that he can go out and devote himself to his big thoughts.

[...]
ON CUCKING AND HOW ITS NATURAL FOR WOMEN TO STOP LOVING THEIR PARTNER AND TO CUCK THEM


Stoverock: Many people don't even realize that this is a normal phenomenon: the female libido has something like an expiration date. Of course, the bond is particularly close as long as the child is small and the woman is therefore very dependent on support. But as soon as the child becomes independent, that changes. In native peoples it is completely normal for a woman to have children from several partners who are born three to four years apart. That is the biological pattern. That does not mean that it cannot be otherwise and that a woman does not have all the children with a partner with all her heart. But it is just not typical of our biology. And I find it highly problematic that a natural biological pattern is pathologized. In fact, it is more women who lose lust, who no longer desire their partner. And they are then persuaded that you have to create more situations as a couple to get in the mood.



ZEITmagazin ONLINE: And how is it with men?



Stoverock: For men, decreasing desire is almost never a problem. Many men still want to sleep regularly with their partner even after many years of relationship. Here you can see that the lifelong partnership was created with the purpose of basic sexual care for men and not out of love. The man really just needs regular access. As long as there is enough sex, he has no reason to change anything about the arrangement. That is why women are also the most likely to file for divorce.

So how does the Female Choice maiting system works? The most important characteristic for our considerations is that the males have to a certain extent apply for sex, and the females choose. The choice does not always take place actively and is therefore often not immediately recognizable, but the performance of the sexual act for males always depends on the requirements of the females. The competition is so always on the male side. Charles Darwin called this "sexual selection." Female Choice is based on two completely different reproductive strategies of the sexes. The need to have sex in order to reproduce does not mean that males and females pull together. On the contrary: to put it bluntly, the male goes on mass, trying to mate with as many females as possible. The female, on the other hand, goes for class and only mates with the best male. So the male has to get as many sexual partner as possible, the female only goes for the genetic high quality partner and has to fend the rest off. The consequence of these different strategies is an inextricable conflict between the sexes, a strong contradiction in sexuality. The imaginative biologists call these opposing reproductive strategies "sexual conflict". One of the most important features of the Female Choice is that the majority of males do not find any mates, or only very rarely. What sounds like evolution has done a bad trick on males and females is by far the most widespread and most successful reproductive model in the entire animal kingdom. The sexual selection by the picky females is at the same time the tool and the origin of evolutionary adaptations; it is the adjusting screw that determines the success of individuals and species. For this reason, sexuality in simple species proceeds according to similar patterns as in highly complex mammals, the differences between the various species are only variations on the same theme. This system also applied to humans until we settled down and is still in our genes.

[...]

But especially for the males, female choice is an incredibly time-consuming principle because they have to put almost all of their energy into finding and convincing female partners. This ties up so much capacity that the rest of the time only allows self-support: procure food, ward off predators and find a place to sleep. But people want more. A man who wants to improve his own life and increase his chances of survival by building something, inventing something, plowing his environment must first ensure that the capacity that is normally used up for sexual competition is free. Put simply, the man must have better access to sex (and thus reproduction) so that he can even turn to progress. Limiting the principle of female choice was therefore one of the most important steps in the early days of civilization that men took in the transition to sedentarism. Agriculture, and with it the ability to accumulate possessions, gave them a means of almost completely controlling sex as a resource. Men denied women the right to property, excluded them from the public sphere by banishing them to the cramped world of private households to raise their children. The institution of marriage ultimately made women almost 100 percent dependent. The fact that women could not prevent pregnancies due to a lack of safe contraceptives was very beneficial to men. The decision about how and with whom women should reproduce was no longer with women, but with men. In this way, men were able to shape the structures of the outside world - trade, economy, politics, work - which are the basis of our society to this day, without considering female (sexual) needs. Civilization was made for men by men: it is androcentric (from the Greek andrós for man).

[...]

It is only for a short period of time in evolutionary terms that women have had the opportunity to gain economic independence and control pregnancies themselves, for example through birth control pills. And since then they have been making giant strides into the androcentric system. What we are currently experiencing worldwide is the reckoning of the oppressed with a male dominated civilization. That turn is very painful for men. Not only does it have to feel to them as if what they have created over millennia and declared to be correct is being torn before their eyes, they also lose control over sex, an existential resource for them. Almost incompatible needs - especially in the area of sexuality, but not only there - collide. Sociology distinguishes human needs into five categories, from basic existential needs such as food and clothing to luxury needs such as self-fulfillment. The model is called Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The most urgent needs are below, the less important ones above. The aggressiveness with which people struggle to meet a need depends on their position in the pyramid and thus on their necessity. The problem is that the needs model is based on a certain equality between people. But the needs of people and especially those of men and women are not placed in the same place in the pyramid. Due to the different reproductive strategies of the sexes, sexuality is lower in the pyramid for men and is therefore more urgent than it is for women. The aggressiveness with which men react to the impending loss of control over this resource is correspondingly higher. With the invention of the birth control pill, their access to reproduction was severely restricted, but as long as women entered into loyal partnerships, at least sex remained secure. The increasing emergence of alternative relationship models also threatens this certainty. It is therefore not surprising that the male-dominated conservative parties in particular plead for the preservation of traditional marriage and the nuclear family. The influence of sexuality on the shaping of our civilization, and thus on today's conflicts, is rarely dealt with or categorically left out in social discourse. In general, most discourses have a biological void. Just as if man were not a physical being, but consisted only of his spirit.

 

[SeanO'God]

What is the source of the quote in your signature?

signatures don't show up for me

i don't know why

can you post my sig

 

[ENORMOUS]

keep coping about qt thicc blond pink buttholed trannys. they are indedd the future

ok while u hopelessly strive to achieve some goblino women with 50 bodies, i bang qt nerdic pussy with no difference except there born a sissyboy anyways. have fun

 

[ENORMOUS]

ok while u hopelessly strive to achieve some goblino women with 50 bodies, i bang qt nerdic pussy with no difference except there born a sissyboy anyways. have fun

repeating struggle

 

[SilverKl]

but normies told me blackpill is made up

 

[MeikeStoverock]

 

[MeikeStoverock]

but normies told me blackpill is made up

except feminist and evolutionary biologist openly talk about it. its an eye opener.

 

[ENORMOUS]

im almost convinced by islam tbh, but it just doesnt work either. u cannot defeat woman