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Anyone have any experience with this? Thinking about whether I should run another EC stack or try clen.
Temoc said:It is legit, but causes leg cramps. I powered through it but some people recommend taurine and potassium supplements to avoid the cramps.
Vanity said:Temoc said:It is legit, but causes leg cramps. I powered through it but some people recommend taurine and potassium supplements to avoid the cramps.
How fast did your bf% drop? How much muscle did you lose and how was the appetite suppressant effect?
Dan said:If you're in a calorie deficit it'll help you lose an extra 1lb every 4-5 weeks.
Dan said:If you're in a calorie deficit it'll help you lose an extra 1lb every 4-5 weeks.
Dan said:HarvardBusinessSchool said:EC increases resting caloric expenditure duh.
So does Clen, by more than double what EC does but even so it only makes you burn ~200 calories extra over the course of the day.
Vanity said:It helps preserve muscle on calorie deficits though, right?
To an extent yes but you are very unlikely to lose any muscle with a regular calorie deficit anyway.
This article details a military study in which lean, healthy men (14% bodyfat) were subject to a ~1,200 calorie daily deficit for weeks. Apparently they didn't start losing muscle tissue until they were at around 8% bodyfat. As the article says, these guys were basically tortured and it's safe to assume none of them were eating enough protein or engaging in strength training.
http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/starvation-mode-why-you-probably-never-need-to-worry-about-it/
Dan said:200 is probably high balling, that was from somebody with a large TDEE who is active and uses steroids. Having dabbled with it myself I'd rather just eat 200 less calories and avoid the heart palpitations, shakes, anxiety and interrupted sleep.HarvardBusinessSchool said:200 a day = 1400 a week = 72800 a year = 20 lbs
Dan said:HarvardBusinessSchool said:EC increases resting caloric expenditure duh.
So does Clen, by more than double what EC does but even so it only makes you burn ~200 calories extra over the course of the day.
Vanity said:It helps preserve muscle on calorie deficits though, right?
To an extent yes but you are very unlikely to lose any muscle with a regular calorie deficit anyway.
This article details a military study in which lean, healthy men (14% bodyfat) were subject to a ~1,200 calorie daily deficit for weeks. Apparently they didn't start losing muscle tissue until they were at around 8% bodyfat. As the article says, these guys were basically tortured and it's safe to assume none of them were eating enough protein or engaging in strength training.
http://fitnessblackbook.com/main/starvation-mode-why-you-probably-never-need-to-worry-about-it/