capitalism is a retarded and self-defeating system

[averyfriendlydoctor]

Well yes it's human nature to fight your way to the top of the food chain.

Kings of the past would call it Divine Right, when in reality they or their ancestors simply killed or conquered everyone who disagreed with them being king.

im not talking about hierarchies or tops of the food chain, just the simple fact that there will always be groups motivated to interfere in the market, either for malicious purposes or to try and PREVENT the former

a completely free market would require the entire planet to agree on a set of rules and follow them without enforcement even unto death, ruination... or even just having to deal with the fact your 5 year old just got sold heroin and you can't do shit about it, or you disrupt the sacred free market!

 

[Sexy Grandma]

im not talking about hierarchies or tops of the food chain, just the simple fact that there will always be groups motivated to interfere in the market, either for malicious purposes or to try and PREVENT the former

a completely free market would require the entire planet to agree on a set of rules and follow them without enforcement even unto death, ruination... or even just having to deal with the fact your 5 year old just got sold heroin and you can't do shit about it, or you disrupt the sacred free market!

Yes and I am saying in the past those groups fought, one came out on top and called himself the state / king. People would take the sides of the guy who they thought had the best idea / was most honorable / offered them the most.

 

[lifeisworthless]

Capitalism = private control of capital
Communism = public control of capital

was gonna say more but I enjoy people being ignorant and arguing with meme talking points

 

[averyfriendlydoctor]

the impossibility of true free market capitalism actually existing, and the total undesirability of it even beyond that, wasnt why i made this thread though

there are a number of other issues like the immorality of usury and how it's impossibily predicated on infinite growth

 

[Karlsplatz]

im not talking about hierarchies or tops of the food chain, just the simple fact that there will always be groups motivated to interfere in the market, either for malicious purposes or to try and PREVENT the former

a completely free market would require the entire planet to agree on a set of rules and follow them without enforcement even unto death, ruination... or even just having to deal with the fact your 5 year old just got sold heroin and you can't do shit about it, or you disrupt the sacred free market!

Read nozick

This isn't true at all

Minimal state can be enforced top down in complete free market

It just needs to be global

That's why free trade is pivotal along w free immigration

It effectively achieves this via race to the bottom in taxes

 

[Karlsplatz]

the impossibility of true free market capitalism actually existing, and the total undesirability of it even beyond that, wasnt why i made this thread though

there are a number of other issues like the immorality of usury and how it's impossibily predicated on infinite growth

Kill yourself moralfag

 

[Karlsplatz]

>muh usury Nooio I wanted that nike shoe shieeeet


Its very simple: u took a loan

Pay it back

 

[Sexy Grandma]

Capitalism = private control of capital
Communism = public control of capital

was gonna say more but I enjoy people being ignorant and arguing with meme talking points

Those are stupid terms you should stop using them.

It's called market economy and planned economy.

 

[Sexy Grandma]

>muh usury Nooio I wanted that nike shoe shieeeet


Its very simple: u took a loan

Pay it back

But it doesn't work like that.

In reality it's you take a loan, you pay MORE back.

 

[averyfriendlydoctor]

Read nozick

This isn't true at all

Minimal state can be enforced top down in complete free market

It just needs to be global

That's why free trade is pivotal along w free immigration

It effectively achieves this via race to the bottom in taxes

"if we just achieve total control of the earth we can establish an anarcho-capitalist paradise"

how can u not see the contradiction there u braindead fucking monkey

 

[lifeisworthless]

Those are stupid terms you should stop using them.

It's called market economy and planned economy.

You can’t plan an economy without it controlling capital, my distinction is better IMHO

 

[Sexy Grandma]

Look the end argument on this that all these conversations will eventually lead to is population control.

I am too lazy to fill in the missing steps from current to population control but I assure you it always end up to that.

 

[averyfriendlydoctor]

Those are stupid terms you should stop using them.

It's called market economy and planned economy.

oh and btw since this reminds me

people act like stock markets are natural things and are guided by the invisible hand etc. when in reality they're completely arbitrary and regulated-to-hell inventions which would not and probably could not exist without state interference

 

[OldRooster]

edge lords gonna edge lord

 

[lifeisworthless]

Look the end argument on this that all these conversations will eventually lead to is population control.

I am too lazy to fill in the missing steps from current to population control but I assure you it always end up to that.

You can plan an economy with regulations but it’s not possible because whoever gets rich buys the politicians

 

[averyfriendlydoctor]

edge lords gonna edge lord

you're a bit old to still be in your libertarian phase

btw low taxes =/= libertarian since im guessing the former is what u actually want

 

[Karlsplatz]

"if we just achieve total control of the earth we can establish an anarcho-capitalist paradise"

how can u not see the contradiction there u braindead fucking monkey

Via globalization you do it retard
Globalization bombs and collapses socialist economies via debt and account balances LOL

But it doesn't work like that.

In reality it's you take a loan, you pay MORE back.

Yes that's the point its called time preference

Read about it you lazy faggot

You are paying more in the future to have your bike shoe now


It punishes low iq consoomerism

 

[Sexy Grandma]

Via globalization you do it retard
Globalization bombs and collapses socialist economies via debt and account balances LOL


Yes that's the point its called time preference

Read about it you lazy faggot

You are paying more in the future to have your bike shoe now


It punishes low iq consoomerism

Yes and time preference is even a thing cause?

 

[dwohh]

but what's the point of defending capitalism when you're at the bottom

it's like being incel and defending hypergamy

how would u get rich in communism retard

 

[Karlsplatz]

Yes and time preference is even a thing cause?

It's a good thing its eugenics and benefits creators over consumers

Literally the best instrument to punish jogger behavior