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Gonna just get to the point. My insurance got cut. Can’t get the jaw surgery without it. Recessed maxilla fucking up my whole face and I don’t know what my other options are.

Pics below tell me if there’s anything else I can do. Also in b4 lose weight cuz I’m on a caloric deficit and am going to keep up on it. I also included a stupid ass video some friends took while we were fucking around. It shows me in motion and profile so tell me how fucked I am. Thanks in advance

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>girl voice in that video

fuck off
 
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legitimately unnoticeable for normies + you look good from front

man leave this hellhole before u go from having laughs w ur friends on a massage chair to being alone in a room thinking how elite male models are keeping you from functioning like a normal person
 

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Gonna just get to the point. My insurance got cut. Can’t get the jaw surgery without it. Recessed maxilla fucking up my whole face and I don’t know what my other options are.

Pics below tell me if there’s anything else I can do. Also in b4 lose weight cuz I’m on a caloric deficit and am going to keep up on it. I also included a stupid ass video some friends took while we were fucking around. It shows me in motion and profile so tell me how fucked I am. Thanks in advance

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Fly to Spain and get surgery from @Sergio-OMS it's not as expensive as in the USA.
 

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you can get bimax for 4-5k in turkey with good surgeons

i wouldnt obsess about if if i were you but youre an ideal candidate for advancement in both jaws i think it would benefit you a lot especially in the way you look when you talk or smile (the recession is obvious then)

(are you from the us? if so just take a 2 months vacation and visit europe and you dont have to go to turkey if that looks shady to you..many top names western of that just a little bit more pricey)
 
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not worth it imo. you're clearly a very anxious person demonstrated by your compulsive shaking in the video. you should sort that out first
 

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lol at the bluepilled responses. yes i've seen your profile and when you chin tuck. you need it. you look like simon cowell's turkey neck. you need a cm of forward movement,maybe slight rotation.

and yes you are a weirdo, work on those things, but that's not to say you can't work on getting your bones cut up simultaneously. you've got nothing to lose but your inceldom

and inject steroids and lift. research these topics well and be prepared to go under the knife and needle

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legitimately unnoticeable for normies + you look good from front

man leave this hellhole before u go from having laughs w ur friends on a massage chair to being alone in a room thinking how elite male models are keeping you from functioning like a normal person

he looks decent from front, andmaybe when vibrating in motion, but you have not seen his neutral necked+chin tucked profile.
 

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your chin shape and prominence is quite good, this is def an mainly upper jaw deformity/recession/collapse. so i think 1cm maybe more forward movement plus ccw rotation and your bite requires, then your bottom jaw might need to be moved forward, although not necesarily, with enough ccw it might just line up well enough for braces work to adjust afterwards.
 

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if you get on fine in life, great. but why settle for retrusion? why allow bad orthos, complacement parents, and an ignorant society get away with butchering your natural growth patterns?
 

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if you get on fine in life, great. but why settle for retrusion? why allow bad orthos, complacement parents, and an ignorant society get away with butchering your natural growth patterns?
I get on ok but I’ve read a lot of place like here and much less savory sites and it’s ruined my confidence to talk to people. The only thing holding me back is insurance now but if that changes I will go for it. Also what are your thoughts on weight loss because I’ve stopped trying to gain muscle and I’m cutting calories dramatically now.
 

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you should cut down to as long as you can then slowly build muscle using steroids to maintain low bf
 

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you need like a 2-3mm lefort 1. maybe 4mm at most, don't even think about doing more than that

Might be worth it to fly to korea, surgeons there are more willing to perform small targeted movements
 

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you should cut down to as long as you can then slowly build muscle using steroids to maintain low bf
I’m already on creative. I’ve dropped several pounds already and I’m continuing to do so. I’m at 1300-1500 calories with 200 grams protein per day. I’m planning to switch to a lean bulk in a month or two whenever I get my abs showing.
you need like a 2-3mm lefort 1. maybe 4mm at most, don't even think about doing more than that

Might be worth it to fly to korea, surgeons there are more willing to perform small targeted movements
My maxfac said 8 mm advancement.
 

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you need like a 2-3mm lefort 1. maybe 4mm at most, don't even think about doing more than that

Might be worth it to fly to korea, surgeons there are more willing to perform small targeted movements

resorption negates any movement less than 5mm. with doublejaw, the more the better. visual difference of a 5mm movement is pathetic
 
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Retrofacies are preferable in men, whereas antefacies is a more viable option for females as confirmed empirically (unless accompanied by functional issues ofc). Antefacies give off youthful vibes and baby-faced look (important for women), retrofacies emphasize manly, chiseled, raw look (important for men).

It's just that the clueless crowds and subcultures of incels, mewers and anyone else affected by the twisted perception and memes perpetuated by these communities think it's bad.
 

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Retrofacies are preferable in men, whereas antefacies is a more viable option for females as confirmed empirically (unless accompanied by functional issues ofc). Antefacies give off youthful vibes and baby-faced look (important for women), retrofacies emphasize manly, chiseled, raw look (important for men).

It's just that the clueless crowds and subcultures of incels, mewers and anyone else affected by the twisted perception and memes perpetuated by these communities think it's bad.
Could you give me an example of these good looking retro faces because I honestly found the forward growth thing to be legit
 

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Could you give me an example of these good looking retro faces because I honestly found the forward growth thing to be legit

I don't know, Kyle MacLachlan (Dale Cooper from Twin Peaks) or the Swedish prince Carl Phillip. Both these guys look extremely high class as well.
 
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