05-14-2016, 02:43 PM
[Red Pill] Frankel regulator - Orthodontist
05-14-2016, 03:02 PM
(05-14-2016, 02:43 PM)Perfectionist Wrote:
Cant remember de video but he says that he does not like it a lot
I would say in my opinion that the Frankel regulator is better than Mike Mew's device
05-14-2016, 06:38 PM
Do you recommend this for those with straight and non-deformed teeth? Could it give small changes?
05-14-2016, 09:29 PM
(05-14-2016, 06:38 PM)Tall Dark and Handsome Wrote: Do you recommend this for those with straight and non-deformed teeth? Could it give small changes?
I think the benefits of the frankel regulator are more for health
It fix your breathing and tongue posture, you feel like another person
look at the pictures in the site I post in this thread
there are some before and after
05-19-2016, 09:29 AM
(03-30-2016, 05:23 PM)Trunks Wrote: Dr. Rolf Fränkel (March 29, 1908 – September 9, 2011) was a German Orthodontist who is known to develop the Frankel functional appliance
I have looked at before-afters of Orthotropics and Frankel Regulator, and in my opinion, Orthotropics brings important visible changes, whereas Frankel regulator has minimmal change.
Also, I looked at your slides, and the principle behind Frankel Regulator, except for oral posture, seems based on naive pseudo science (widening your cheeks widens your jaws, pushing your mentalis forward brings your mandible forward).
I myself have studied my friends orthodontically, and Orthotropics theory explains very well the relationship between dental and facial development, to the point I can predict things, whereas the Frankel regulator does not seem to have any principle/scientific basis behind it.
05-19-2016, 10:08 AM
Orthotropics is total nonsense. If you have a weak lower third you can get normal braces that will correct your overbite and move lower third forward.
05-19-2016, 02:27 PM
Orthotropics is very similar to the Frankel regulator
you only think is better because Mike scam Mew shows their best results in kids in the growing fase
If your age is 18+ and you don't live near mike mew the Frankel regulator is the best thing you can do
(05-19-2016, 02:27 PM)Trunks Wrote: @Perfectionist
It has nothing to do with Mike Mew or whoever invented the theory.
Orthotropics is based on scientific principles and works even without using appliances at all. Orthotropics is completely natural, and Orthotropic appliances try to simulate natural processes.
The Frankel Regulator (at least in my own understanding of it which my be wrong) is unnatural and does not try to simulate the natural process of the tongue on the roof of the mouth, i.e. the root cause, but deals in a naive medicine-man fashion that by expanding the space around the arch, the arch will expand on its own.
Why I say that this is unnatural is that for example I have a good friend with 7-8/10 male model type facial aesthetics and the soft tissue around his arch is completely flush with his teeth, and he uses these muscles just as much as someone with malloclusion does, if not more. In fact, his palate is slightly narrower than should, but it has very good shape, because of the way his tongue rests on his palate. If I were to put a Frankel Regulator on him, do you honestly think he would become more attractive? But, if he were to improve his oral posture, which is slightly off because the rear part of the tongue does not work enough, his face would in time become even more defined and he would end up looking like Oliver Cheshire.
Also, if your are 18+ and don't live near an Orthotropist, you can simply practice chewing+oral posture and as an extra thing, ask your orthodontist to put you a palatal expander and optionally a reverse pull headgear.
05-19-2016, 04:40 PM
Quote:The Frankel Regulator (at least in my own understanding of it which my be wrong) is unnatural and does not try to simulate the natural process of the tongue on the roof of the mouth, i.e. the root cause, but deals in a naive medicine-man fashion that by expanding the space around the arch, the arch will expand on its own.
The Frankel regulator puts your tongue on the roof of the mouth and every time you swallow it creates a presure in the facial sinus that stimulate all the muscles of the face and neck. That way you have good muscle tone to keep the mounth close all the time
It also ajust the ATM joint that is off because you are mouth breathing. When you ajust that all your body is in 100% function. You have more strength in all muscles - we did a strength test for that and you gain like 20-30% more strength. Your nose also opens and you acn breath better.
When your ATM is off it sends a signal to the brain that the nose is close so you think you nose is close but is not. With the closed nose you breathe with your mouth. Ajusting that we open the nose and we also put your spine in alignment
Spine in alignment = shoulder on the same level, taller, good posture, no pain
05-19-2016, 04:51 PM
you just have to be breastfed
05-19-2016, 08:05 PM
where can i find this in europe
05-20-2016, 08:49 AM
(05-19-2016, 04:40 PM)Trunks Wrote:Quote:The Frankel Regulator (at least in my own understanding of it which my be wrong) is unnatural and does not try to simulate the natural process of the tongue on the roof of the mouth, i.e. the root cause, but deals in a naive medicine-man fashion that by expanding the space around the arch, the arch will expand on its own.
OK, my bad then.
I just don't understand how it forces your tongue on the roof of the mouth.
Also, I'm worried about the fact it may influence your facial muscles in a negative way.
Ok so I need to tell something
the device I used it is not the Frankel Regulator LOL
it is similar but it gives MUCH better results and less painfull
The device is by Dr Wilson Aragão
07-30-2016, 03:52 PM
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